Meeting Time: March 25, 2020 at 6:00pm PDT
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2.1. MAYOR STONE & VICE MAYOR BROWN - HOUSING RELATED ITEMS & OTHER EMERGENCY RELATED ITEMS DUE TO COVID-19 Mayor Randall Stone and Vice Mayor Brown have called for a Special Meeting to address the eviction protections, support for the unhoused, including sanitation and shelter options or updates. Vice Mayor Brown is also asking for the Council to consider: (1) tent camping opportunities and guidelines so that vulnerable populations can be more easily reached and those with tents can stay in them to avoid the spread of COVID-19; (2) sanitation stations, including the possibility of installing additional hand sanitizer locations in key locations; and (3) any means by which the City can support sheltering operations to get up and running immediately and non-profits who may be able to help.

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    Karen Henderson at March 25, 2020 at 5:51pm PDT

    yes please

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    Raymond Scott at March 25, 2020 at 5:49pm PDT

    i order to protect everyone in this community we need to make sure everyone has shelter. This means a ban on evictions, legalizing camping and commandeering motels. Sanitation stations also need to be accessible to everyone. Peoples lives matter more than money.

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    Zoe DiMercurio at March 25, 2020 at 5:48pm PDT

    I fully support these measures and more. The unhoused need our support now more than ever. This pandemic will strike the most vulnerable the hardest, and we as a society need to pull together to fight against it. If we do not take these very modest steps for the public good then we are not going to be properly prepared for the public health crisis that is gripping much of the world.

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    Lisa Currier at March 25, 2020 at 5:47pm PDT

    Do better

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    Steven Breedlove at March 25, 2020 at 5:45pm PDT

    I saw this coming. I tried to warn you. The fact you are attacking each other instead of offering assurances and condolences reflects this entire body's bankruptcy. Sean and Kasey voted for Randall as mayor. Why is Ann paying into the hands of right wingers? Oh because we have one party rule! The wealthy land owning and business class have had their day. The pitchforks are coming.

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    JoAnn Raff at March 25, 2020 at 5:39pm PDT

    Tents for homeless are dirty and a disgrace to city. Considering current virus in County and elsewhere in California, they will actually cause spreading more germs, insanitary conditions. This is APPALLING!

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    Doug Burton at March 25, 2020 at 5:36pm PDT

    While I agree with increased sanitation stations, I believe the other issues are being effectively addressed by the state.
    I believe tent cities would actually increase the spread of the virus, unless there someone there to enforce order.

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    David Welch at March 25, 2020 at 5:33pm PDT

    This is a critical time to move fast and aggressively to get the unhoused into safe shelter - not just for their safety but for all of ours. We are all told to stay in our homes - which hardly works for those with no home to go to. We won't make the problem go away by starving people out.

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    Carey Wilson at March 25, 2020 at 5:30pm PDT

    Providing easily accesssible hand washing stations and stable living arrangements for our homeless citizens is more important than ever during this public health emergency. The proposed actions to help them would actually make the city safer for the housed citizens of Chico.

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    Rob Davidson at March 25, 2020 at 5:27pm PDT

    This is a public health crisis! The unhoused need our support more than ever. I wholeheartedly support allowing special provisions for tent camping and sanitation stations.

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    Lauren Kohler at March 25, 2020 at 5:25pm PDT

    I support all three of the requests Vice Mayor Brown has proposed. We need to take care of our most vulnerable populations. We have largely failed thus far, but now more than ever we need to act quickly, compassionately, and intelligently. People need a space to shelter-in-place, and it's the city's responsibility to facilitate that.

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    Margaret Hicks at March 25, 2020 at 5:21pm PDT

    I support sanitation stations, as long as they are “no touch” dispensing.

    I do not support tent camping within the city limits, since I could see this totally backfiring . Instead of supporting social distancing, it would likely encourage community spread. The state of California is designating hotels, and they are a much more appropriate setting to contain the virus (individual bathrooms), etc.

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    Aaron Briand at March 25, 2020 at 5:16pm PDT

    Opposition to support for the unhoused & those at risk of becoming unhoused is nothing short of exterminatory at this point

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    Eric Chisler at March 25, 2020 at 5:12pm PDT

    There is only one intelligent decision in this moment of COVID-19: people are only capable of isolating and staying clean if they have shelter. This is the bare minimum we can do for the health and safety of this city. We cannot afford half measures in response to this crisis which will likely claim more lives in our county than the Camp Fire. Act now to protect everyone by protecting those most vulnerable to this crisis and most likely to be vectors without necessary support.

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    Cody K at March 25, 2020 at 5:08pm PDT

    Make hand washing stations available all over town

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    Nicolas Jackson at March 25, 2020 at 5:02pm PDT

    I support housing now and a citywide ban on evictions for the duration of this emergency. Those without shelter are extremely vulnerable right now. I ask that this council do everything in its power to rapidly construct shelters and allow for tents and adequate sanitation facilities in the interim. I am personally very vulnerable to losing my housing being on Section 8 and Supplement Security Income. Without a ban on evictions I and people like me will end up shelterless.

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    Kari Logan at March 25, 2020 at 4:58pm PDT

    Please do everything possible to protect our most vulnerable populations.
    The city of Chico should be providing bathrooms and sanitation stations.
    We need multiple camping grounds for our houseless population to shelter in place.
    I'm absolutely shocked and appalled by those who oppose.

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    Joseph Schneider at March 25, 2020 at 4:53pm PDT

    This proposal is aspirational and not based on thinking strategically for the city. Both Mayor Stone snd Vice Mayor Brown both lack the proven experience and it shows. The impact of this proposal will have measurable impact on the community, it’s residents, and the long term success for the City of Chico.

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    Hunter Hernandez at March 25, 2020 at 4:52pm PDT

    A community is only as healthy as the least advantaged within it. You should’ve done more to support and help the homeless before this but better late than never. Anyone who opposes this is a monster

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    Chaz Kelley at March 25, 2020 at 4:52pm PDT

    It is fundamental had not just a matter of public heath but the nearest level of human decency that we ensure protection of all citizens to have a sheltered location where they can rest and flatten the curve of this global pandemic. Failure to adopt this measure will only lead to further spread and give power to kick out those furloughed or layed off as well as punish our most vulnerable citizens

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    Jana BurgessHenry at March 25, 2020 at 4:51pm PDT

    I support all 3 of the items listed in 2.1 above. Sanctioned campgrounds with restrooms and wash stations if people must shelter in place are imperative. More support for appropriate sheltering options that are inclusive to all. Opening of all restrooms, including the ones run by CARD, with soap provided. Partner with non-profits as needed to expedite measures to serve those without services.

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    Max Porter at March 25, 2020 at 4:51pm PDT

    In this unprecedented crisis, we need to do whatever we possibly can to support our most vulnerable citizens and neighbors. No one should be evicted during this time, and we need to protect the safety and well-being of the unhoused.

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    Ryan Schwab at March 25, 2020 at 4:50pm PDT

    Lets start with this, then move on to provide actual housing for all the people of Chico.

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    Devon Dimercurio at March 25, 2020 at 4:49pm PDT

    Yes, please take all possible actions to protect the vulnerable.

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    MICHAEL SMEAD at March 25, 2020 at 4:47pm PDT

    I absolutely oppose allowing camping in our parks, plaza and along waterways. The parks are for everyone in this city, needle litter is already a problem, as is trash. This not only will destroy the environment, but make them unusable for Chico families and citizens. This is not the answer. There are thing in place at the State level to address these issues. Destroying our city is not something that should even be considered.

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    Melissa Jerez at March 25, 2020 at 4:46pm PDT

    Our governor issued a sheltered in place mandate. There are currently people who reside in our town who don’t have shelter. Please enact a moratorium on evictions to save these people’s lives. Please work with the university to make sure student housing is accommodated. Please make sure that folks utilities aren’t shut off due to not being able to pay. Be decent. Save lives. Housing Is a human right. Thank you.

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    Sarah Bolen at March 25, 2020 at 4:45pm PDT

    No! This proposal is not well thought out--where will camping be allowed, who will oversee the sites and ensure their cleanliness and safety, how will sanitation be controlled, how long will they stay intact following the pandemic, and what will be done when (not if) the "vulnerable populations" engage in illegal activities? Yes, put hand sanitizer stations anywhere we can--but again, who will maintain them? As is, this item would only serve to worsen a situation that is already out of control.

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    Susan Bobbins at March 25, 2020 at 4:43pm PDT

    No tents and no needles!!

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    Josh Indar at March 25, 2020 at 4:33pm PDT

    Providing hand washing stations and stable living arrangements for our homeless citizens is the least we can do as a city and is absolutely essential during the current public health emergency. Homeless people are not only more vulnerable to sickness, they are a possible transmission vector. The action proposed will cost very little, will have almost no impact on the housed citizens of Chico and will save lives.

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    Addison Winslow at March 25, 2020 at 4:32pm PDT

    We have dozens of willing volunteers and are working every day to fill the gaps left by the shelter-in-place order. We are willing and able to work with CHAT, Safe Space, or in whatever formation to assure everyone can shelter safely and have a half-decent life during the outbreak. But the Council needs to direct staff to permit multiple campgrounds for us to service. The City needs to provide the tents, restrooms, and handwashing stations. Direct staff to partner with us, and we'll get it done.

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    Leslie Henson at March 25, 2020 at 4:13pm PDT

    For the sake of public safety and the humanity of the unhoused, we need to support these measures and more.

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    Jesica Giannola at March 25, 2020 at 4:09pm PDT

    Hi Council! Please allow individual camping (6 ft apart?) where ever is deemed necessary. We are running out of time and need to get people situated asap. Newsom has authorized the use of hotels, please also check into those, as well as a designed car park space- effective immediately and not waiting for further directive. Hand washing stations should be everywhere they can be deployed, as well as restrooms. Please half evictions and continue to work on other housing issues asap. ty, Stay safe!

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    Jen Leonard at March 25, 2020 at 4:04pm PDT


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    Nathaniel Perry at March 25, 2020 at 3:58pm PDT

    A shelter in place order is meaningless if people don't have shelter. Housing the unhoused is and always has been the solution. Now at long last perhaps the immediacy of this crisis might ring louder than the voices who despite every evident fact still believe they can will the homeless to vanish via the sheer force of their disapproval.

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    Mark Chrisman at March 25, 2020 at 3:20pm PDT

    I support the removal of Randall Stone as Mayor and furthermore support the censuring of him meaning his removal from all boards and commissions he is serving on. He can serve the remainder of his term on the council only, learning proper decorum!!

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    Phyllis Sandy at March 25, 2020 at 3:09pm PDT

    So far the city has not been able to stop the homeless from congregating and making a mess out of Chico. So who would be in charge of that rodeo! It has been taken out of the police’s hands and given no other options. I do not trust the mayor or Brown nor Ory to protect our city.

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    Steve Lafaurie at March 25, 2020 at 3:04pm PDT

    The list of ideas put out by Stone and Brown seem thrown together without any regard for how they impact the general public. For example, allowing tent camping so "that vulnerable populations can be more easily reached and those with tents can stay in them to avoid the spread of COVID-19". We all know that will not work. Please quit wasting time on ideas that just foster bad public health and sanitation.

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    Jennifer Morris at March 25, 2020 at 1:49pm PDT

    I am opposed because it not a necessary topic to discuss evictions when the Butte County Superior Court has already said they were not allowing them through May 31st. I do wonder if council is worried about how owners are going to be able to hold onto their rentals when they can't pay their mortgage payments because they also are not working and have been impacted by the Covid-19 pandemic as well? Everyone needs to work together! This isn't a rich or poor person situation its impacting all.

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    Denise Crawford at March 25, 2020 at 1:43pm PDT

    Camping should never be allowed in the Chico City limits. I'm completely ashamed at how disgusting downtown Chico looks. Allowing camping and the needle exchange is only enabling this population instead of getting them the help they truly need.

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    Jeanie Avery at March 25, 2020 at 1:39pm PDT

    Get him out!!!

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    Rodney Winkle at March 25, 2020 at 1:12pm PDT

    I agree to eviction protections if not already covered by state or federal Covid 19 protections, no need for the city to waste time with redundancy if that is the case. No on everything else if it doesn't involve forethought and planning and in the best interest of all residents of Chico. So far the Brown and Stone Proposals have been horrible for this city and its time for them to stop or be stopped.

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    Sheryl CampbellBennett at March 25, 2020 at 1:03pm PDT

    Yes on Evictions. No on #1, different version of 5.1 Offenses Against Public Property Ordinances from cancelled meeting of 3/17/20. Too vague. Not along any creek or greenway. City could get fined due to clean water act. No tents in DTA it already smells like a restroom. #2, I doubt they would be utilized...#3 again too vague where and no city $. FEMA trailers or airport centralized location for potties, J.C. meal delivery, distancing and storage of “valuables”.

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    Kelly Moakley at March 25, 2020 at 12:30pm PDT

    There is no forethought, no plan and no limits on this. Giving the City (be it the Council or the city manager) the authority to use “any means by which the City can support sheltering operations to get up and running immediately” is to broad and ill defined.

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    Lisa Russell at March 25, 2020 at 12:22pm PDT

    I do not agree with allowing tents or camping in the City of Chico. Get some help to have this population understand distancing during this crisis. I am not opposed to sanitizer for them as long as they are not wasteful with it as it is in high demand for the entire country right now.

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    Kami Denlay at March 25, 2020 at 12:04pm PDT

    ^that is terrifying. That has NO place in this proposal. NO PROPOSAL should EVER be that open ended. Reign it in!!!

    Can you say “tent city”? Sure, let’s try allowing tent cities to avoid “spread of COVID-19” by instead unleashing epidemics such as tuberculosis, measles, typhus... as seen in the massive LA tent cities.
    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 real strategic CM Brown 🙄 Sounds like a real Win-Win scenario you’ve got there.

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    Herbert West at March 25, 2020 at 11:54am PDT

    Yes to eviction protections. We all saw how many of our neighbors were evicted after the last crisis to hit our area. If protection isn't put in place early our homeless population will skyrocket, especially among many of Chico's service industry workers.

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    Bryce Goldstein at March 25, 2020 at 11:27am PDT

    YES! We need safer conditions for vulnerable people ASAP. It will help the unhoused and every other member of our community by preventing the spread of COVID-19. Tent camping sites would be a wonderful and humane way to provide unhoused folks with some basic safety and dignity, and have been needed for years. Sanitation stations and other means of keeping everybody safe would also be great. This is good leadership. Thank you, and please keep it up!

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    Christine Williams at March 25, 2020 at 11:26am PDT

    No. Our downtown businesses are already suffering with crime and vandalism that seem to follow this population. No tent cities.

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    Tami Donnelson at March 25, 2020 at 11:18am PDT

    Considering this community's proven record obstructing any attempt to shelter our unhoused, it is imperative that the City take official action in this time of emergency. Our community also proved, immediately after the Camp Fire, that property owners WILL evict people during emergencies in order to protect or increase their personal finances. Sadly, you must not rely on common decency but instead implement official mechanisms to protect our community in this time of crisis.
    Thank you.

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    Paul Belz at March 25, 2020 at 10:26am PDT

    A campground for homeless people is essential right now, along with sanitizing stations and public restrooms.. It must be set up to insure that people are practicing social distancing, and their health is protected. However, I really hope the suggestion does not come up to use Bidwell Park as a place for the campground, I WOULD NOT support that. The park is both an ecological treasure, and a source of comfort that will preserve people's mental health through this crisis and beyond.

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    Susan Smead at March 25, 2020 at 9:33am PDT

    How can anyone think this is a good idea for our city. When Bidwell Park was donated to the city, there wasn't even to be alcohol allowed, now you want using drug addicts to set up camp throughout and discard trash and needles? Why are you not watching what Oroville is doing, they are protecting their citizens by disallowing these steps and disallowing needle distributions. Tents scattered everywhere will only lead to the spread of the virus, not to mention other waterway and health hazards.

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    Kevin Emanuel at March 25, 2020 at 9:21am PDT

    No, do not turn our downtown and parks into tent city’s! Please show some respect to the tax paying citizens of Chico.

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    Julie Threet at March 25, 2020 at 9:16am PDT

    Tent camping is failing NOW as people are tent camping already all over town. BUT, I agree we have to be real as a solution specific to the COVID-19 virus must be found NOW. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Gov. Newsom seemed to get FEMA trailers, rent hotels, use empty schools, etc for SHORT-TERM solution. My view is: Open Chico State Dorms. Protect the facility using Chico State PD. Feed them, give needles, etc. But "quarantine" like rest of us FORTUNATE to have home.

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    Nancy Park at March 25, 2020 at 8:46am PDT

    Yes to eviction protections and sanitation stations. Tent camping OK, but NOT in Bidwell Park, Comanche Creek Greenway, or any of our parks and greenways. If the proposed Simplicity Village and Orange Street shelter had been allowed, we would have so many fewer people on the streets during this pandemic. Those who opposed those two projects need to offer solutions to shelter homeless people, rather than just opposing everything. Let's get homeless people off the streets!

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    Ed Holohan at March 25, 2020 at 8:41am PDT

    PLEASE! STOP concentrating on a small minority of our population. Let's get back to supporting the MAJORITY of our population. Do the MOST GOOD FOR THE MOST PEOPLE, us, the tax paying, law abiding MAJORITY.

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    Kate Roark at March 25, 2020 at 8:31am PDT

    Yes to more hand sanitizer locations. The camping idea might work (not Bidwell Park!) but social distancing would have to be enforced. Also, I wonder if this will work for people with serious health conditions or older people.

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    Trevor Maturo at March 25, 2020 at 8:15am PDT

    Do not continue to waste tax payer money on more shelters. These have been proven time and again to not help the community as a whole. Keep our streets clean. Stop making it attractive for the transients to move here!

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    Kathryn Jackson at March 25, 2020 at 7:40am PDT

    You do know what "contagious" means, right? Good. How about "fatal?" Excellent. Now, let's do the right thing --the smart thing-- and set up some shelter and sanitation stations.

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    Stephanie Taber at March 25, 2020 at 7:38am PDT

    This must be voted down. As much as we may have compassion for those less fortunate among us we cannot allow the City of Chico to become the next San Francisco or LA. City Plaza has become a disgusting sight after having spent $10 million plus on it to become a central showplace for the city. Neither Brown, Stone or Ory can be trusted to put enforceable restrictions on a "tent city" and will continue to criticize our Police Department regardless of the prudent way they handle the homeless.

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    Sandra Burner at March 25, 2020 at 6:12am PDT

    Tent cities breed more diseases. Homesteading public spaces is not the answer.

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    Karissa Casey at March 25, 2020 at 5:35am PDT

    State has already given eviction protections. We’ve already shut down public bathrooms due to vandalism & reckless behavior by this population— Why are we spending more tax payer money to install stations that will just be pooped on? Tent cities will increase Covid-19 spread, not contain it. These are not solutions to our problem.

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    Rob Berry at March 25, 2020 at 5:29am PDT

    The City's made any effort to PREVENT camping in our parks, why do they think they need to give EXPRESS PERMISSION to camp there? We knew before the virus that allowing occupation in parks and public places was a reservoir of disease. We are asare of the growing diseases sweeping through the homeless population, and we've done nothing. Now Stone and Brown want to double down, as if homesteading public property is any kind of solution. Brown New Deal is not the answer. Protect our parks.

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    Angela McLaughlin at March 24, 2020 at 11:18pm PDT

    I am so proud of our council for getting tenant protections and alternatives for the unhoused on the agenda swiftly during this crisis. Providing alternatives for safe sleeping and enhanced sanitation will help prevent the virus from spreading amongst the unhoused, and tenant protections are absolutely critical to ensure displaced workers don’t themselves land on the streets. Bravo! Let’s get this done.

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    Michelle Hale at March 24, 2020 at 10:31pm PDT

    The state is already doing this. People who own rentals are not all big business evil landlords. Stop enabling people to forgo their responsibilities. How about you propose people stop paying taxes, cable bill or for groceries. The enabling must end.

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    Yvonne Johnson at March 24, 2020 at 9:22pm PDT

    I have read the proposal for the homeless on Vice Mayor Alex Brown's page. The mayor and vice mayor have emboldened the homeless community to commit acts of violence and vandalism against citizens. We need to allow camp sites out of the public eye that are supervised and regulated. The community should no longer be exposed to the drug addicted lifestyle. People who want to feed, provide needles, and other services to the homeless should take them to the camp sites. Homeless should not roam.

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    Jenna Walker at March 24, 2020 at 9:01pm PDT

    Tent camping is NOT the solution for the COVID-19 crisis for homeless populations!

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    Jason Krueger at March 24, 2020 at 8:42pm PDT

    “Any”?! I think that’s legalese for: “now I get to do whatever I want to further my agenda without having to bring it back before the people”. There is “Any” number of ways that this could go bad! “Any” other great ideas Brown? How about letting tent camping “Any”where in the city. One mile would be nice. Come on. This is pure foolishness.

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    Megan Zimmerman at March 24, 2020 at 8:37pm PDT

    No tents this will attract others to camp!

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    Caroline Eikenbary at March 24, 2020 at 8:28pm PDT

    Tent camping will not improve access or the possibility of spreading Coronavirus amongst homeless. No on this one please. Sounds like an invite to spread the virus. Sanitation stations on the other hand, aren’t a bad idea.

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    Christine Hall at March 24, 2020 at 7:31pm PDT

    No! Stop and think before acting.

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    Carrie Krueger at March 24, 2020 at 7:31pm PDT

    Sick people don’t belong in tents, and your average camp tent isn’t going to stop the spread of disease in our homeless community. Hand sanitizer stations aren’t a bad idea. I do not support the City’s use of “any means” by which the City can support sheltering operations to get up and running immediately and non-profits who may be able to help.

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    Dustin Vargas at March 24, 2020 at 7:29pm PDT

    This violates the Governor’s order to socially distance ourselves. You’re trying to create large gatherings of highly susceptible people? Not well thought out and I fear implementation would be worse. Lastly by the time you get any of this in place the shelter order will be lifted. No thank you.

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    Kimberly Burke at March 24, 2020 at 7:24pm PDT

    Once again the thought process of Mayor Stone and Vice Mayor Brown make no sense. If more tent camping is allowed it will just draw more people to our community. Our parks and waterways are already in dire straights, and beyond contaminated. There is no way this should happen.

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    Nancy Mendonca at March 24, 2020 at 7:21pm PDT

    Not well thought at all. Strongly oppose.

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    Matt Dutton at March 24, 2020 at 7:20pm PDT

    Why don’t you stop NVHRC as a starting point? What are you doing to support your local businesses? You keep focusing on criminal transients instead of your tax paying and law abiding citizens.

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    Nichole Nava at March 24, 2020 at 7:04pm PDT

    Where is your actual plan that will not put ALL of us at risk, including the unhoused? Yet again you apply a scattershot approach and your NARROW FOCUS in obvious to one and all. What about all the small business owners being impacted? The rent piece may help, but then again we have people with rentals that are on the hook for the mortgage so does this protect them too? I hope so. How about find ways to support the small business owners as Chico won't thrive without them

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    Colleen Feeney at March 24, 2020 at 7:01pm PDT

    We have been advised to socially distance ourselves to help save is that supposed to work in a tent environment? We need leadership with a little more intelligence than that! Not thought out at all!

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    Roxanne Eldridge at March 24, 2020 at 6:38pm PDT

    So you want chico to resemble skid row more? People will flock from all over to come live in a lawless tent city. More garbage and rodents carrying more diseases. Why not this of the rest of us for once. You already let them camp in parks. Once again Oroville is already a step ahead of you. They banned the needle distribution and shot down putting up camps and trailers so that way others cities dont bus load more unused folks there. Be like oroville

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    Jesica Montgomery at March 24, 2020 at 5:45pm PDT

    This hasn’t been thought out well AT all.

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    Pamela Kopping at March 24, 2020 at 5:38pm PDT

    I strongly oppose this horrible idea. Illegal camping is already ravaging our parks, streets, neighborhoods, and waterways. Allowing the unhoused to shelter in place in tents is not the answer. The answer must have some accountability and leadership/direction in order to enforce the recommended guidelines.

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    Peggy Jarolin at March 24, 2020 at 5:38pm PDT

    No! Oppose! The State of California has a program to house the most vulnerable in hotels and other state authorized sites during the pandemic. Work that program first before you commit to this insanity.

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    Jody Gallaway at March 24, 2020 at 5:27pm PDT

    Unsheltered people deserve better than tents. I can't imagine a situation where the allowance of tent camping would decrease the spread of Covid-19. The City is already supplying restrooms and hand sanitizing stations."Any Means" is a scary proposal coming from the untrustworthy Stone and Brown duo.

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    John Kermen at March 24, 2020 at 5:25pm PDT

    This will serve to further destroy the city of Chico

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    Brian Bullen at March 24, 2020 at 5:24pm PDT

    Oppose! Remove Stone and Brown

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    Gary Viertell at March 24, 2020 at 5:21pm PDT

    This appears to be a way f circumventing existing laws about camping in public places.

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    Crystal Maddocks at March 24, 2020 at 5:12pm PDT

    I feel this is their way to try a skirt around the sit and lie ordnance which is unacceptable. Use the shelters that are in place. Those who are sick should not be in a tent anyways. This will just compound a already worse situation. Open. The fair grounds like we have in the past to handle fire victims.